Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1970-10-04
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Grateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1970-10-04
- Publication date
- 1970-10-04 ( check for other copies)
- Live concert
- Grateful Dead
- DeadLists Project
t01 - Truckin' is only a 00.45 second fragment with the DJ talking over at the end.
t02 - Includes DJ intro during the first few seconds. Garcia's vocals are low in the mix throughout.
t03 - FM static @ 01:54. FM dropouts at 03:51 & 03:54 were removed leaving a splice. Garcia's vocals are low in the mix until roughly 03:10 where they return to full strength.
t04 - FM dropout at 0:02 was removed leaving a splice.
t05 - Garcia's vocals partially dropout at 03:32.
t12 - FM static @ 04:03.
Entire disc was retracked with CDWave.
As an overall note when I received this recording it contained a large number of pops & clicks, plus some scattered level fluctuations. I used Cool Edit 2000 to individually fix a lot of these problems. No noise reduction or processing was used! All fixes were done by individually repositioning the waveform. All told I probably fixed more than 200 clicks so there were too many to list in this file. I also normalized a few spots of over saturated levels. I some cases I was not able to identify the problem within the waveform so a number of anomalies, typical for a 35 year old FM recording, still remain. However, I think the end result is an improvement over the previous version.
EAC(secure, offset corrected), sector boundaries verified with Shntool, and seekable SHN encoding with MKW by D.Winters - 01/23/05.
- 0000-00-00 00:00:00
- KSAN-FM Master Reel > Barry Glassberg's 1st gen Reel (Dolby B Decoded) > PCM > CDR > EAC > CoolEdit2000 (see notes) > SHN
- San Francisco, CA
- Transferred by
- Harvey Lubar, Tony Cortazzo, D.Winters
- Winterland Arena
We were restless, and left after the Dead. When we got home a housemate was sitting with his feet up listening to the show. KSAN on the stereo, the other station (KOIT?) on his clock radio, which he'd put on the mantel. He told us that Janis had died.
This show started as a one-off for the retirement of Quicksilver Messenger, along with Airplane (on their last legs), but stands out in Dead history because it was quadcast. Two stereo radio stations colluded to broadcast in quad (so, at home you needed one receiver tuned to each), and a TV station simulcast the vid feed.
Later it became best known as the source for a vinyl boot that was re-pressed with several label names and covers. It was once so ubiquitous that, if you didn't have a tape connect, this was likely the only boot in your crates. A second night was added but has never emerged in trading circles. It may not have been AUD recorded and only one SBD track has emerged. Both shows were a single set, since they went on 1st and Airplane 4th.
Unlike the FM reels, the vinyl boot (and therefore some digital sources) are half of the quad sound, being lifted from just one of the two FM feeds. It had:
SIDE 1>Sugar Magnolia/Good Lovin'
SIDE 2>end of China Cat>I Know You Rider/Casey Jones/Uncle John's Band
As pseudonym58 (and others) have pointed out, this was not a tight night for the band ("we always blew the big ones"), but the highlights average things out. Till The Morning Comes is the 2nd of only 6. It was dropped before it could be ironed. Though still rough, it's one of the best of the 6 (the other bests being 10/31 & 12/26). American Beauty had not been released yet. This is also the 6th Brokedown, and before it became an encore slot. It's very rough and with channels missing. Phil is hot this show and that's what drives an unusually good China>Rider. Jer's tone on his Guild[?] is great here. The rest sags down to a Casey Jones trainwreck. Uncle John's is the comeback but it's still a puzzling, random pick for a Workingman's bonus.
Overall = C
China Cat Sunflower>I Know You Rider - gels, flows and soars on Phil and tonality
SOURCES: The cotsman_4942 is the only source that isn't pitched slow, but the glassberg_winters_28363 has the most material, better clarity/image, has been cleaned up, and only needs a +1% pitch adjustment. Others play much too slow. Uncle John's Band is a bonus on Workingman's Dead. An average (though with a Tighten Up jam) Dancin' in the Streets from the following night emerged on Download: Family Dog.
Subject: sounds amazing
By the way, there was also some post-set commentary from the DJ, whose on air name was Dusty Street. She interviewed Marmaduke (NRPS), Pigpen, and a few audience people. But the big announcement is the death of Janis Joplin, which is confirmed on air!
Bay Area store Pacific Stereo does some commercials too, advertising a new TIAC tape recorder machine.
Subject: I was there
Subject: @ daevid
The jam after drums on Good Lovin', crazy Jerry followed by the trading of licks between everybody? The transition between China/Rider with Phil out front and Bob mixing up the soup? Some of the unique highlights for me. Great stuff.
I also had a Standing Sam picture disk, which I still have. 1970 acoustic set that turned out to be Dick's Picks #8 much later.
Subject: great set, lousy show
Subject: Steal Your Face Picture Disc
This has always been my favorite Dead recording (maybe second to Maples Pavillion (72, 73, or 74). Jerry using the wah wah, and Phil's bass sound great. My friend use to call the bridge section of Uncle John's Band Phil's trip. ah old times
Subject: The GRATEFUL DEAD "Live On Stage" October 4, 1970, at the Winterland Arena, San Francisco CA, U.S.A.
Super 70' Soundboard!
A "Must Have" show...
This show has always been one of my favorites through the last 39 years. I still have it on LP by Mammary Presents, or Productions...you could only fit about 30 minutes on an LP, so I never heard the whole show until I found it on the Archive.
I highly recommend adding this show to your 1970 GRATEFUL DEAD collection. This is a fantastic show, the GRATEFUL DEAD are in time, in tune, and incredible.
This is my favorite version of "China Cat Sunflower" into "I Know You Rider". Garcia's solo is magical, mystical, and mythological. The boys never performed it like this again...
"Sugar Magnolia" is sweet. Garcia works his Wah-Wah pedal like a sorcerer.
This is my second favorite version of "Sugar Magnolia" next to the one with Duane Allman on April 26, 1971 at the Fillmore East, NYC. I downloaded that show off the IA when you could. Here's where you can't download it anymore:
I love the "sound" of this show...KSAN did something right. Phil's sound is fat and funky.
This show was heavily bootlegged back in the day. In 1971 I remember the record shop next to the Fillmore East selling copies of this show on LP's for $15.
Without this show in your collection you cannot be taken seriously as an aficionado of the GRATEFUL DEAD.
One of the best versions of "Good Lovin'" I've ever heard. My favorite of all time.
Thank you Mr. Harvey Lubar, Mr. Tony Cortazo and D. Winters for all your hard work in improving the quality of the sound of this show and sharing it with all of us. Most of us wouldn't know you guys if you stood next to us, but we want you to know we are Grateful for your efforts. Thanks for keeping the music we love alive.
Here's one way to download this show:
The IA recommends users of Windows XP view this web-page with RealPlayer. RealPlayer is a free media player you can download at www.realplayer.com.
For easy streaming or downloading use RealPlayer. Click the VBR M3U link to open the songs in the Playlist. If your Playlist is not open, open it by clicking the Playlist icon at the lower right hand corner of RealPlayer. Once the songs are in the Playlist, double click the song to play it, then click the record button at the lower left hand corner of Realplayer to record it. When the red line reaches the other end click the stop button to download the song. Your song is in the RealPlayer Downloads folder. Repeat these steps for each song.
Eat, Drink, Be Merry and Listen to the GRATEFUL DEAD.
Thanks for the Love from 1970.
PS: Remember to click the "DeadLists Project" link and get the poster/handbill for this show.
Subject: Geary Blvd Decision
I'd left home for the first time for college and drove in from Stockton to see the Dead with new friends. Four of us in a black 63 beetle with no back seat.
The acid didn't take long to hit, and with the KQED tv cameras pointing at the audience with the lights up, it felt like the world was watching me freak out - which I did.
It was the only time a hallucinogen got the better of me. I sat in the bug on Geary Blvd outside of Winterland for two hours, realizing that life was going to be many years of pain, so why not end it right now, and shorten the process.
I didn't and never thought about suicide again.
I remember watching the poor souls come straggling out, huddling, clutching each other, in twos and threes, tripping their way into the San Francisco night. There must have been a couple hundred people who left before the end of the last set.
Subject: Phil's chops
Great to hear. Compliments the rest of the band well.
Subject: a kickin' set
Subject: Great show, but be apprised....
Listen to the power and energy in this set. The Airplane and Quicksilver were to follow so they had only an hour and change to get it all in. (Or blow the other bands away)!!
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